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		<title>By: Here&#8217;s to the Next 3 Years &#171; Katz Got Your Tongue?</title>
		<link>http://yehudakatz.com/2008/11/14/mythbusting-merb-style/comment-page-1/#comment-20632</link>
		<dc:creator>Here&#8217;s to the Next 3 Years &#171; Katz Got Your Tongue?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] said that they preferred Merb, and by the end of the year, the Rails and Merb teams were coming to blows. During this same time, Engine Yard had taken on a Series B round of funding (this time [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] said that they preferred Merb, and by the end of the year, the Rails and Merb teams were coming to blows. During this same time, Engine Yard had taken on a Series B round of funding (this time [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolás Sanguinetti</title>
		<link>http://yehudakatz.com/2008/11/14/mythbusting-merb-style/comment-page-1/#comment-13804</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolás Sanguinetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Er, sorry, 798 -- 553 is in the branch were the framework is being rewritten, but since it&#039;s not stable yet let&#039;s not count it, it wouldn&#039;t be fair, would it? ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, sorry, 798 &#8212; 553 is in the branch were the framework is being rewritten, but since it&#8217;s not stable yet let&#8217;s not count it, it wouldn&#8217;t be fair, would it? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolás Sanguinetti</title>
		<link>http://yehudakatz.com/2008/11/14/mythbusting-merb-style/comment-page-1/#comment-13803</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolás Sanguinetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait, you want .... what, something that handles the request/response cycle and is able of rendering a view in one of many formats, using one of various adapters, like ERB, haml, or whateverthefuckyouwant?

http://sinatrarb.rubyforge.org

&lt;code&gt;$ cat lib/sinatra.rb &#124;grep -v &quot;^[[:space:]]*$&quot; &#124;grep -v &quot;^[[:space:]]*\#&quot; &#124;wc -l
     553&lt;/code&gt;

Hah, it seems it isn&#039;t a tie after all.

Oh wait, right, this is to see who has the biggest penis, not what framework you are most comfortable working with. Not to see which framework people relates better to. Or which framework gets the job done. Get back to work and stop wasting time with this shit, please :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, you want &#8230;. what, something that handles the request/response cycle and is able of rendering a view in one of many formats, using one of various adapters, like ERB, haml, or whateverthefuckyouwant?</p>
<p><a href="http://sinatrarb.rubyforge.org" rel="nofollow">http://sinatrarb.rubyforge.org</a></p>
<p><code>$ cat lib/sinatra.rb |grep -v "^[[:space:]]*$" |grep -v "^[[:space:]]*\#" |wc -l<br />
     553</code></p>
<p>Hah, it seems it isn&#8217;t a tie after all.</p>
<p>Oh wait, right, this is to see who has the biggest penis, not what framework you are most comfortable working with. Not to see which framework people relates better to. Or which framework gets the job done. Get back to work and stop wasting time with this shit, please :)</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel Bibler</title>
		<link>http://yehudakatz.com/2008/11/14/mythbusting-merb-style/comment-page-1/#comment-13780</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel Bibler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ll be happy to see one of the latest Rails core commits, by none other than DHH himself, here: http://tinyurl.com/5ytm2h (GitHub).

Be sure to read all of the hilarious comments that ensue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll be happy to see one of the latest Rails core commits, by none other than DHH himself, here: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5ytm2h" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5ytm2h</a> (GitHub).</p>
<p>Be sure to read all of the hilarious comments that ensue.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Aimonetti</title>
		<link>http://yehudakatz.com/2008/11/14/mythbusting-merb-style/comment-page-1/#comment-13753</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Aimonetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Documentation is coming up, check the latest &lt;a href=&quot;http://merbist.com/2008/11/16/merb-news-nov-16-2008/#more-270&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Merb news&lt;/a&gt; where documentation is addressed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Documentation is coming up, check the latest <a href="http://merbist.com/2008/11/16/merb-news-nov-16-2008/#more-270" rel="nofollow">Merb news</a> where documentation is addressed.</p>
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		<title>By: vire7</title>
		<link>http://yehudakatz.com/2008/11/14/mythbusting-merb-style/comment-page-1/#comment-13750</link>
		<dc:creator>vire7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I meant @tomas. Sorry, Tomas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant @tomas. Sorry, Tomas.</p>
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		<title>By: vire7</title>
		<link>http://yehudakatz.com/2008/11/14/mythbusting-merb-style/comment-page-1/#comment-13749</link>
		<dc:creator>vire7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@thomas 

The pot calling the kettle black? Dude, read your comments again and see if you can spot the hilarious irony as I don&#039;t think it was intentional.

Write some documentation? Do you mean like a $50 book from Pragmatic Programmers? Or like Django? :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@thomas </p>
<p>The pot calling the kettle black? Dude, read your comments again and see if you can spot the hilarious irony as I don&#8217;t think it was intentional.</p>
<p>Write some documentation? Do you mean like a $50 book from Pragmatic Programmers? Or like Django? :P</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
		<link>http://yehudakatz.com/2008/11/14/mythbusting-merb-style/comment-page-1/#comment-13741</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh, so the reason why we&#039;re having this LOC contest is supposedly because less LOC makes it easier to understand and familiarize yourself with the code, right?

Write some fucking documentation. That&#039;ll make it much easier than just writing compact code.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, so the reason why we&#8217;re having this LOC contest is supposedly because less LOC makes it easier to understand and familiarize yourself with the code, right?</p>
<p>Write some fucking documentation. That&#8217;ll make it much easier than just writing compact code.</p>
<p>Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.</p>
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		<title>By: raggi</title>
		<link>http://yehudakatz.com/2008/11/14/mythbusting-merb-style/comment-page-1/#comment-13729</link>
		<dc:creator>raggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why&#039;s everyone still talking about speed, when:

 - most users don&#039;t need it
 - most apps are slow in THE RENDER PHASE

n.b. none the penis enlargers under discussion here do shit about that issue.

If you have a backend service that needs real speed, I wouldn&#039;t use rails or merb. They&#039;re both shit slow for that. In fact, I probably wouldn&#039;t use any of the webservers you people use either, they&#039;re also very slow. Firstly they do full http parsing (ouch), second of all, they&#039;re synchronous (ouch).

There&#039;s only a handful of us battling those issues, meanwhile you all enjoy yourselves bickering about stuff that doesn&#039;t matter. Neither project will die as a result, you&#039;ll just load up the spamtrains with more goo, and go to bed stressed one night and arrogant the next.

Summary(ish): http://ra66i.org/tmp/rails_vs_merb.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why&#8217;s everyone still talking about speed, when:</p>
<p> &#8211; most users don&#8217;t need it<br />
 &#8211; most apps are slow in THE RENDER PHASE</p>
<p>n.b. none the penis enlargers under discussion here do shit about that issue.</p>
<p>If you have a backend service that needs real speed, I wouldn&#8217;t use rails or merb. They&#8217;re both shit slow for that. In fact, I probably wouldn&#8217;t use any of the webservers you people use either, they&#8217;re also very slow. Firstly they do full http parsing (ouch), second of all, they&#8217;re synchronous (ouch).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s only a handful of us battling those issues, meanwhile you all enjoy yourselves bickering about stuff that doesn&#8217;t matter. Neither project will die as a result, you&#8217;ll just load up the spamtrains with more goo, and go to bed stressed one night and arrogant the next.</p>
<p>Summary(ish): <a href="http://ra66i.org/tmp/rails_vs_merb.html" rel="nofollow">http://ra66i.org/tmp/rails_vs_merb.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://yehudakatz.com/2008/11/14/mythbusting-merb-style/comment-page-1/#comment-13726</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Competition is great.  I love and use both Rails and Merb.  Thanks much to everyone who has contributed, innovated, etc.

Rails is getting faster... lately many of my actions are taking &lt; 20ms.  

Maybe there can be a mud wrestling ring at the next rubyconf where all the flamers can battle it out in real life... :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Competition is great.  I love and use both Rails and Merb.  Thanks much to everyone who has contributed, innovated, etc.</p>
<p>Rails is getting faster&#8230; lately many of my actions are taking &lt; 20ms.  </p>
<p>Maybe there can be a mud wrestling ring at the next rubyconf where all the flamers can battle it out in real life&#8230; :)</p>
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